Wozza,
Yours has got to be THE BEST subject line of the year!
"Oh dear ,did I touch your belief system?" Well done!
Nathan Natas
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Oh dear ,did I touch your belief system?
by wozza injust been thinking about things that happened when i was in the jws that made me realise that i was waking up .. bit of history first ,my mother brought me up as a mormon from the age of about 4 till about 12 ,saw alot of things that even puzzled me as a kid and knew the lds church could not be right (like pressuring my mother to pay the 10 percent tithe that she had accrued while dad was out of work for three months with no income}.. one bug that i had then was that they treated "negro" people differently,coul'dnt marry whites at the temple, hold the ministry etc the prophets back then taught this and changed some things later.. years later when i became a witness i sometimes would talk about this with other jws and point out that the prophets had changed their teachings and asked the question "so who got the teaching wrong , the prophets or god?
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it was amazing to see their faces ,always seemed to be the same ,it was as though they realised that this could be the same situation in the the "truth" and did'nt want to think about it ,and really with all the changes in recent years ,this question should be asked bt jws today to test their belief system which is based on a group of men which changes all the time over the years and so does their teachings.. wish the internet and information had been around when i was becoming a jw i probably would have put it to good use and never become a jw ,but for those today ,use it well and your critical thinking and the road away from mens teaching will be swift.
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Nathan Natas
Maybe Randy Watters' scam-artiste movie-maker friend can resurrect his grifter plan to open a charitable hostel/hotel/halfway-house for shipwrecked JWs? All he needs is a few hundred thousand dollars to get his balls rolling...
"Better a stinking rat-hole you know than a stinking rat-hole you don't know," right?
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Nathan Natas
I don't understand the entire "crowdsourcing" phenomena at all because I understand economics.
That being said, I have contributed to some crowdsourced projects at levels that took projects from "3 days away from death" to "fully funded".
The results were generally disappointing. The "artists" often seemed to lack the drive to finish the project once it was fully funded, and when the projects were finished, they had an air of great ordinariness about them.
If asked my advice, I'd say that cooking a hamburger over burning dollar bills will probably yield greater satisfaction than playing "angel" to nincompoops, but I had to learn this lesson the hard way.
Read the projects listing on KickStarter if you enjoy laughing at stupid ideas.
GoFundMe is "The Island of Lost Causes", IN MY OPINION.
"I'm sad -- send me money -- I'm STILL sad -- send me more."
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"Please consider contributing" -- is this for real?
by Nathan Natas ini have started seeing requests for contributions at the bottom of the screen.. why the change?
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Desirous of Change said, "...(Maybe it just "sounded" abrasive.)"
DUH, ya think?
Whatever "tone" you chose to attribute to any poster here is a reflection of YOUR internal mental state, not theirs.
In other words, YOU DON"T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, so "STFU" is advice you ought to take to heart.
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"Please consider contributing" -- is this for real?
by Nathan Natas ini have started seeing requests for contributions at the bottom of the screen.. why the change?
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I have started seeing requests for contributions at the bottom of the screen.
Why the change?
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Should I stay married to my JW wife
by gatorguy inme and my wife were at the beach the other day and i finally told her, i don't think i believe in god anymore.
i fessed up to the fact that it started with me doubting some jw beliefs and then it just led me to this point where i don't even believe in god.
i wouldn't say that i even have a negative view towards jw's or religion in general.
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Nathan Natas
Gatorguy, you have come to a discussion group to ask STRANGERS about how you should plot the course of your most intimate life.
Unlike others here who back away from the issue by saying they are "unqualified" to offer advice, I can assure you that >I< am "fully qualified" to offer MY OPINION, because:
1. I am a stranger to you, and as I said, you sought the advice of strangers
2. No one else here knows what MY OPINION is, only I know that
3. I have been criticized here as a "self-appointed elder" by persons who appointed themselves to criticize ME. See the irony there?
So here you go; MY OPINION is that because you are already thinking of finding a new mate, that is exactly what you should do. Leave this relationship! You have no cosmic obligation to stick to a BAD DECISION. You are not required to sacrifice your peace of mind and self respect for the rest of your breathing days on this earth in an effort to be someone else's easter bunny.
Having kids to fix an unhappy marriage NEVER works. Any kids produced from an unloving union will be prisoners of your bad decision even more than you are.
That is what I think you should do. Now the ball is back in your court; what will you do?
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For Dog Lovers-- Meet Stanley!
by Sail Away inhave you ever had a dog that was dumber than a box of rocks?
i have; his name was dave matthews.
we loved him anyway.
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You mentioned that you have no idea of Stanley's early life. I think it is quite likely he was severely ignored or even abused during his youth, resulting in what in humans is called "failure to thrive" syndrome. I am not saying this as a "put down" of Stanley, but in his brain certain cognitive circuits were never developed. That doesn't make him any less adorable, and it doesn't mean that the love you offer him is not returned a hundredfold in his heart.
"Good Boy, Stanley! Go find Doctor Livingston!"
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EdenOne, Mrs. Eden & Son: DISASSOCIATED!
by EdenOne ingreat news!.
we are free!.
as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.
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After 15-17 years JW daughter coming by for a visit today.
by James Mixon inis something going on in jw land i don't know about.
she and her new husband and my two.
grand daughters, one i have never seen.
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Nathan Natas
Maybe she heard the recent official announcement that Armageddon will be here before 2040 and she wants to save your life?
Her motivation may be loving and concerned, but her worldview is wacko.
Ask if her belief in this date is so strong that she will sell all she has - yes, even all her shoes - and throw herself and her family headlong into the full-time misery? OK, they may call it "ministry" but WE know it for what it is, don't we?
Or will she follow the example of the Watchtower Governing Body and simply pay lipservice to this "new light" while carrying on like nothing was going to happen?
The GB is right - nothing is going to happen! They just like to keep people "tuned-up" and in line by spouting bilge every so often.
Fair warning - after her visit she will be angry at you for rejecting her message of doom.
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Scary Dream
by freemamaof3 ina little background- i faded in august 2015. ive got to small kids and one on the way.
i dont believe the jw cult nonsense anymore.. .
ok so last night i had the scariest dream.
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Nathan Natas
Greybeard said, "100% Ya think? Right on Nathan, we got to talk someday..."
I am incontrovertibly certain of it, because this was revealed to me IN A DREAM.
No, sometimes I just like to say things to make people jump. Dreams are the garbage-disposal units of the brain. The reason they seem plausible and believable is because they are snippets of our individual memories. If they were snippets of SOMEONE ELSE's memories, we wouldn't recognize them, and we'd be arrested for peeping-Tom-ism and we would owe royalties to the person whose memories we just viewed.
It's simple. Fortunately I am simple too...
I've read your story, Greybeard. Rough. You didn't deserve much of what happened to you.
